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::This deviation is part of the Propaganda series[link] ::

I personally believe that US americans should be aware of the threat posed by evolutionarianists... evolut.... ivolut... terrorists. Therefore, Darwin is a terrorist.

Your dearest sexy vice-president to be

S. P.
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:iconpapierowyszczur:
PapierowySzczur Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2015
Mine thoughts : Evolutionism and belief in God/gods aren't colliding. In case of Christianity, most of creeds say that beginning of the Bible is symbolic. Also, science and religion/metaphysics take care about other problems.
P.S. Darwin wasn't against religions. He just  trying to separate his scientific work from any religious or anti-religious theses. He focused on nature and I admire it.
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Velica Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2015
Linneus was very religious and to prove god's work in Nature he wrote Scala Naturae where he classified all animals and plants in nice little groups to show how mighty god is. Unfortunately for him that was the first evidence that all living things are related and have a common ancestor and that they have evolved without interference from gods, magic or other kind of superstitions.

Let's face it: the evidence for god's existence was slim to start with and with every scientific advance it becomes less and less supported by evidence (hence faith becoming more and more important). 

I have no problem with people being religious but I question the scientific capability of a scientist that claims to believe in a god.
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PapierowySzczur Featured By Owner Dec 3, 2015
Honestly, I believe in God and I want to be a scientist. Many people who believed in God were good scientists : Base of classical genetics was created by priest (Gregor Mendel, as you know). That priest also tried to send results of his work to Darwin. That letter was unluckily unread (maybe got lost). If Darwin had opportunity to read it, he would have a chance to defy the biggest argument used against his theory (in his times).

More about Theory of Evolution. I think that refusing to accept fact that is in front of our eyes is stupid. Evolution exists and we see it. About one hundred years ago there were few infectious strains of bacteria that were immune to antibiotics. Now most of them is and they are immune for few kinds.

I agree that with technology improvement belief in God/gods decreases, but from some reason it doesn't vanish. I don't say that it's a proof. But there are still miracles in this world. Maybe it comes out of probability, maybe from God or gods.

At the end : Let's just enjoy getting to know more about this place we live in. I really like your works connected with science. I'd like to ask you, if you could make work about Arabidopsis thaliana as you did about E. coli and Mus musculus?
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Velica Featured By Owner Dec 3, 2015
Its true that many of the great scientists of the past were religious but then again, back in those days, being ostensively non-religious would make you an outcast in society in the best case (worst case being, as it happened a lot, being killed). I think they were religious because they were not allowed NOT to be.

The reason why religion is still around despite no evidence to support is because belief in god is not based in reason but in emotion. People want to feel special and unique and believe the whole universe was created for them but guess what, it wasn't. It was here before us and it will coldly go on after we're gone. We're but a transient speckle of dust :)

In my opinion there are no miracles. There are things we don't yet understand. Some of them we may never really fully understand but to replace our ignorance with belief in gods to make us feel nice and cozy is intellectually dishonest.

I had done one with Arabidopsis (and one with Drosophila) back when I did the other mouse models but it didn't look good and it wasn't very nice. I may have published it somewhere but its not worth finding it.
Do you have any ideas? :)

big non-believer's hug
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PapierowySzczur Featured By Owner Dec 3, 2015
Big believer's hug ;)
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PapierowySzczur Featured By Owner Dec 3, 2015
Thank you for sharing your opinion. I'll tell you that I don't have anything against non-believers too (I have many of them in my family, including my father).
I agree that religion is about emotions - it's not science, after all.
About religious scientists : As long as we don't mix religion and science, politics and science or politics and religion, there is no problem. Mixing those is like drinking milk while eating pickled cucumbers. Nothing good can outcome of this.
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Velica Featured By Owner Dec 3, 2015
:)  

As you know in science one has to be doubtful and not take anything at face value. You question what you read, you question what others do and you question what you do. If we come up with a hypothesis we should be constantly attempting to show why its not true and only in the absence of disproving the hypothesis we can (carefully) accept it and move on. My issue with religious scientists is that I know that there is at least one situation where they didn't question what they were told, they know the evidence for that hypothesis really really doesn't add up and yet they keep on believing it. Because they want it not because they can. If they do that for the question "does god exist?" why wouldn't they do it for their own hypothesis?

Having said that, I think a good quarter of all scientists that I have worked with are either religious or "spiritual" to some extent but they were never very very strong believers. The exception was a guy who studied cryptococci genomes but didn't believe in evolution (which is odd given that he spent a lot of time plotting phylogenetic trees).

Anywayyyyy: I didn't want to sound preachy with this so apologies if it came across like that. Its been a long time that I expressed my opinion about this particular topic :)

As for mixing topics I am actually quite fond about it. What I dislike is tabus. As long as nobody is fanatical and is able to make a structured argument I say "bring it on!". Religion AND politics. Politics AND science. Science AND politics (although the latter would be pretty dull).

Final note: I though EVERYTHING in Poland was mixed with pickled cucumbers :D 
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PapierowySzczur Featured By Owner Dec 3, 2015
It was very nice to talk with you about it.
About doubts : most Christians have them (including me), no matter what education they have (even priests). From theological side, they are needed to search more about own religion.

Are you a scientist? I'm impressed wit combination of science and humour in your works.

P.S. Eating pickled cucumbers and drinking milk is a veeery bad idea. It causes short episode of diarrhea in short time.
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:iconvelica:
Velica Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2015
I am a scientist indeed. How about you?
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LaughButts Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
LOL, she's an idiot. No one listens. 
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Target21 Featured By Owner Nov 18, 2012
Evolutionists and the others should just live peacefully with one another.

How? Just accept each other's theories of life. Creationism and Evolution do really have some scientific facts. It's been proven that women have one more rib than men (Adam and Eve) but at the same time monkeys and humans have genetic similarities, suggesting that humans may have evolved from monkeys millions of years ago. So just accept.
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Velica Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2012
"About 1 in 200-500 people have an additional cervical rib, and there is a female predominance"

Not the strongest 'scientific' evidence I have ever seen, I must say.
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plzwork112234 Featured By Owner Mar 10, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I which Sarah was running
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twilights-embers Featured By Owner Oct 15, 2010
hehe.... You gotta love our almost VP. She can see Russia from her house~

Seriously though, you gotta love Darwin. His theories have been built upon, but his original ideas still stand.
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milyglam Featured By Owner Aug 5, 2010
VERY, VERY GOOD!!!!

:D
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angiak666 Featured By Owner May 2, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
...:lol: you're awesome...
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EmperorZelos Featured By Owner Apr 29, 2010
I thought for a moment you were being serious XD I have watched too much creationist shit thats for sure. Lovely image and very funny ^_^

I love these kind of things as jokes 8D, though i get pissed off by the stupidity behind it if its serious
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lady-alessandra Featured By Owner Feb 26, 2010
i was astonished when i saw a poll made in the US, more than a half people didn't believe in evolutionism! wow.

i love this psycho darwin.. xD
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soulseeker89g Featured By Owner Feb 20, 2010
your deviation saddens me, Darwin a terrorist, i think that your deviation is the propaganda
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Velica Featured By Owner Feb 20, 2010
You are aware that this is sarcastic, right?
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soulseeker89g Featured By Owner Feb 22, 2010
:)) looks like i got punked, sry for thr criticism
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:iconvelica:
Velica Featured By Owner Feb 22, 2010
No problemo.
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lonermon1 Featured By Owner Feb 20, 2010
XD
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Deactived Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2010
There are no words for how much I love this!
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:iconvelica:
Velica Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2010
Thanks!
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battybuddy Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2009
He's got nothing to lose- he's already dead.
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Bellette Featured By Owner Jun 3, 2009
This is incredible as all your "propaganda" stuff.

200 years of the evolution of the species, fossils around (magnificent fossils) and I'm still amazed how many creacionist people are around the world ^^U (and i'm not here to offend anyone, same Darwin was a Chritian, I'm a beliver too ^^U)

I agree with Kenny's boy signature XD. Let's say it in a way that everybody will be happy, astrolopitecus "Lucy" was our "Eve" Xb

(You're a Biologist?? Cool! I'm going to be biologist too, I'm the university right now ^^)
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Marsmar Featured By Owner Aug 4, 2009
200 years, more like 200 million years.
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:iconbellette:
Bellette Featured By Owner Aug 5, 2009
I was talking about the book ^^U. I don't know if pass 200 or 150 years of the publication of the book ^^U
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:iconmarsmar:
Marsmar Featured By Owner Aug 5, 2009
Darwin was born 200 years ago, and the origin was published 150 years ago.
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Bellette Featured By Owner Aug 5, 2009
Thanks for the correction ^^U
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Marsmar Featured By Owner Aug 5, 2009
you're welcome.
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Velica Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2009
Good luck in Biology!
and thanks for the comment!
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Mentalrabie Featured By Owner May 28, 2009
i wish a happy *slightly* belated birthday :D
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Marsmar Featured By Owner May 19, 2009
S.P.: I can see Russia from my house, that means I have experience in foreign politics

Me: I can see the moon from my house, does that make me an astronaut, I can see the entire world on Google earth, does that make me an expert in geography.

Sad to see people deny something with so much evidence deny it for a talking snake and apple fairy tale.
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MonkeysUndles Featured By Owner Nov 17, 2009  Student Writer
*laugH*
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:iconvelica:
Velica Featured By Owner May 20, 2009
Aw, I miss Sarah Palin...
Wasnt politics much more fun?
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:iconmarsmar:
Marsmar Featured By Owner May 20, 2009
yeah, we should have a 3rd party candidate that is only there to make a complete ass of themselves for fun.
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Kenny-boy Featured By Owner Apr 1, 2009
This is halarious! I'm a christian and know so many people who think of Darwin like this, when in reality Darwin was a christian too!
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Velica Featured By Owner Apr 1, 2009
Nearly everyone in England at that time was Christian.
Darwin was just a plain nice guy that didnt want to offend anyone.
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Kenny-boy Featured By Owner Apr 6, 2009
i guess I'd have to agree, but reading through Darwins writings you could tell that atleast he revised his hypothosis many time to not to offened anyone!
I'm not sure if you ever read this but didn't the cahtholic church try to baptize him at his death bed an have him deny his studies?
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Velica Featured By Owner Apr 6, 2009
I heard some version of that story. And I'm not surprised if it were true.

I'm glad we live now, 200 years after Darwin's birth, knowing that he was indeed a visionary. In the end what he proposes a rational and logical mechanism for the evolution of species based on empirical observations. There's nothing spiritual or anti-spiritual about this.
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Kenny-boy Featured By Owner Apr 7, 2009
I agree!
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Kurtle Featured By Owner Mar 25, 2009   Writer
What?
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:iconvelica:
Velica Featured By Owner Mar 25, 2009
Sarcasm, sarcasm...
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SilverVulpine Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2009  Hobbyist Photographer
Brilliant! :)

And Happy Darwin Day! :)
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Velica Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2009
:) happy Darwin Day to you too!
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SilverVulpine Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2009  Hobbyist Photographer
Thank you. :)
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downtoearthstudios Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2009
religious wackos are the cause of terrorism, be it christian, jew, muslim, nationalist... our most honorable mr darwin was not, and i think you know that, but if you dont and you wanna carry on calling educated folks who understand that evolution is just a simple fact of life terrorists, then you are simply put... a moron at best.
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Velica Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2009
Have you ever heard of "sarcasm"? No?
Here, this one is for free: [link]
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