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Go vegan. by Velica Go vegan. by Velica
Vegans are for vegetarians what Al Qaeda is for Islam.
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OhEmGe3 Featured By Owner Jul 9, 2010  Hobbyist Photographer
This is retarded and, just thought I'd let you know.

good day
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Nossek Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2008
Shiiiit! I'll kick that pig's ass! Turn 'em into breakfast!
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sowhatifimcrazy Featured By Owner Jun 23, 2008
Yeah, vegans are crazy.
Caring about other sentient beings is an insane idea.

also, very similar to mass murder.
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Velica Featured By Owner Jun 24, 2008
It is not necessary to be a vegan to care about animal wellfare.
In fact, vegans do very little in benefit of this cause since their extremism removes all their credibility. Vegetarian yes, vegan never.
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sowhatifimcrazy Featured By Owner Jun 24, 2008
so you'd rather people do something half-assed?
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Velica Featured By Owner Jun 24, 2008
i'd rather prefer if people fought for decent animal treatment while still accepting their role in the food chain as omnivours.

vegans spend more time making everyone else feel guilty for not being as "pure" as them than actually fighting for any good cause.
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sowhatifimcrazy Featured By Owner Jun 24, 2008
i beg to differ, vegans have a legitimate goal in mind, they want animals to no longer be seen as objects to be bought and sold, they want them to stop being abused and treated like material possessions. they (unlike the bleeding heart omnivores out there) won't be happy with animals living slightly better lives before they are slaughtered and their flesh is sold. vegans are fighting for animals, not their own consciences.
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Velica Featured By Owner Jun 25, 2008
vegans need to learn a bit more.

this debate will lead nowhere.
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sowhatifimcrazy Featured By Owner Jun 25, 2008
obviously.
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18Cthulhu81 Featured By Owner Jun 18, 2008
hah. for every animal vegan's don't eat, i'm going to eat THREE!
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Velica Featured By Owner Jun 19, 2008
you carnivor! :D
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theSIGNer Featured By Owner Jun 17, 2008  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Como vegetariano que sou... sei do que falas. Li os comentários mas antes disso já sabia que ia dar buraco...
Eu só queria ser vegan se pudesse mas ser vegetariano já me dá completamente cabo do orçamento.
Não vale a pena criticar as crenças de ninguém. Cada um sente as coisas como quer ou pode ou como foi educado.
Se tiveste contacto com a morte de animais como dizes, então é possível que tenhas perdido a capacidade de sentir em relação a isso.
A minha namorada é vegetariana. Ambos começamos a sê-lo quando nos revoltamos contra a forma como se "produzem" animais e como são literalmente chacinados para baixar os custos de produção.
Mas agora vê o quanto lhe custa estar a tirar o curso de veterinária e ter que matar animais para os dissecar... a miúda vai quase às lágrimas, mas pelo menos ali o animal é eutanasiado e não esfaqueado e pelado ainda vivo e a berrar...
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Velica Featured By Owner Jun 18, 2008
Não deixei de sentir empatia pelos animais. Mas tento ser racional e distinguir o que é justificado e o que é puro sadismo. E, infelizmente, a coisa não é branca ou preta.
Investigação em animais por exemplo. Se for algo que leve a que se perceba melhor como funciona uma doença ou que leve a uma cura, claro. Se for para testar a nova maquilhagem da L'Oreal... já não apostaria a minha ética aí.
Na produção de comida a coisa também anda por linhas tremidas. Pisar o bem-estar animal para aumentar lucros é profundamente errado mas se vamos meter todas as vacas, porcos e galinhas a viver num T3 com vista para o mar o preço seria tão alto que a maioria das pessoas não podia comprar. E como disseste, uma dieta vegetariana/vegan pode dar cabo de um orçamento.

Tento só comprar carne free-range e produtos ditos "organicos". Procuro um equilibrio onde não nego a minha biologia omnivora mas também não me torno um carnivoro cultural.

Boa sorte para a tua namorada. Ela que seja menos emotiva e mais racional. Afinal de contas quando for veterinária vai ajudar ao bem estar de outros animais.

Um abraço
Pedro
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angelsuicide0 Featured By Owner Apr 25, 2008
Hey now, I'm vegan and try not to preach, the more I preach the less the listen. I had to learn that.
So why waste my time? Unless they ask for reasons, I keep it to myself.
I think it's a great concept, but not everyone does and I respect that.
I'm offered meat all the time, it gets offensive after a while, because they know damn
well I don't eat it. Just like you said somewhere else, every religion/group has it's radicals.
Our radicals just raid fur farms. Ew or like PETA, who I don't really support, try to get names of towns change because it puts thoughts of animal abuse in people's mind (fishkill, NY)
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Velica Featured By Owner Apr 25, 2008
I agree with your position. People have different degrees of commitment to different causes.

When I think of veggie al qaeda Im thinking of the animal rights groups who set fire to the homes of scientists that do animal testing.
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angelsuicide0 Featured By Owner Apr 28, 2008
Ah like the ALF. I'm torn. I support their cause, I support raiding vivisection labs.
I don't support hurting another human being for doing their job.
Unless it's like the head mad scientist. mwa ha ha ha
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Velica Featured By Owner Apr 30, 2008
I've worked in labs where people killed many mice, sometimes hundreds in a day. No one took any pleasure on doing it. The ethic rules and bureaucracy are horrendously complicated. Still, I would get very pissed off if a group of people came in and destroyed all the work I'd done in years!

If you want to punish someone go out and yell at people in shopping centers, football stadiums, homes, Africa, whatever. These are the ones who demand new therapies, new drugs, etc.

I'm just a sucker who likes science!
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angelsuicide0 Featured By Owner Apr 30, 2008
I'm too much of an animal lover to sit around and watch that happen. I understand it's in the name
of science and the future of man kind pretty much, I just can't stand seeing animals suffer.
I guess I can see both sides of the story. If we want cures for aids, cancer, etc, then we need
to test it on SOMETHING. I guess the people I'm really against are the slaughter houses,
they torture the animals and not in the name of science. Just for the fun of it.
Let's push a cow around by a forklift, because if he doesn't make it to the line he'll just
go to waste. Nevermind the fact that he's sick probably diseased, people can still eat him.
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Velica Featured By Owner Apr 30, 2008
I guess you can put these situations in a hierarchy. Animal suffering will always happen (in last case scenario, of the human animal). Either if its basic survival, legitimate sacrifice in order to get better life conditions, animal welfare neglect, animal cruelty and pure sadism (on top of my head I have bull fighting, dog fighting, etc).

If a person cant distinguish a dog fight from a lab that does animal research then I cant respect that person. Its pure lack of good sense.

And in the end we're all going to die and be ferociously devoured by worms, fungus and bacteria. You just have to accept your role in the chain.
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angelsuicide0 Featured By Owner Apr 30, 2008
Yea like I said I can understand testing for a cure.
It's the useless killing for simple pleasure.
Michael Vick...I'm sure you've heard of.
Hunters is another torn subject. Hunting for a rack isn't good.
Hunting for meat and the whole animalis being used, a little more understandable.
I understand there's a food chain, I chose to take myself out of it.
Except for when I die and worms eat me, or a lion kills me.
Just like you said.
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Velica Featured By Owner Apr 30, 2008
:)

I still think that hunting your own food is ethically more acceptable than buying meat that was produced in a "meat factory" where animals dont have space to move.

But if everyone hunted there would be nothing to hunt.
And if there was no mass production, food would be too expensive and people would starve.
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Mentalrabie Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2008
i have no problems with vegan people...
...unless they have problems with me ;)
allthough i think that meat-based products are treated inflationary these days....i eat meat maybe about one or two times per month, and i'm feeling quite good :paranoid:
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Velica Featured By Owner Apr 23, 2008
Same here. I try to avoid mass-produced meat in general and its been long since I quit/reduced red meat.

But its always fun to pick on vegans.
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Mentalrabie Featured By Owner Apr 23, 2008
:nod:
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Shamancat Featured By Owner Apr 21, 2008
Yeah right....really wanna see how a vegan is driving an airplane into the burger king company building or monsato company building...

How many vegetarians and omnivores had been kidnapped and murdered by vegans? 100...thousands?...oh yeah...right...none
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Velica Featured By Owner Apr 21, 2008
I guess you're being too literal and not getting (maybe on purpose) what the comparison is.

Here, have a bit of ham... It'll make it better... :)
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Shamancat Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2008
And what should the comparsion be...

By the way..offering ham to a vegan ... are you offering jews ham or hindus beef?

Or ask a lesbian if she wanna have a penis in her vagina...that would make it better and cure her from her homosexuality....
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Velica Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2008
you're a funny vegan. can i keep you?
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Shamancat Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2008
I already have an owner...and i really do not think you have the stamina to keep pace with me.

And it is always so bugging to get rid of wannabes that died of exhaustion...my pigs would have no problem with that..but it makes them way to fat and it is hard to get them in good shape again.
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Velica Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2008
1lt (1¾ pints) Blood (Pig, Lamb or Goose)
340g (12oz) Shredded Suet
300ml (½ pint) Milk
50g (2oz) Oatmeal
3 Medium Onions, chopped
1 tbsp Salt
½ tsp Mixed Herbs
½ tsp Cayenne Pepper
Pinch Nutmeg

Pre-heat oven to 160°C: 300°F: Gas 2.
Mix all of the ingredients together thoroughly, making sure that the seasonings are evenly distributed.
Next fill the large sausage cases, see: Sausage Making Basics for advice on doing so.
Place into an ovenproof dish with a cover, standing in a larger dish half filled with water.
Bake for 1½ hours.
Allow to cool.
Fry with bacon and eggs for breakfast or use as a part of a Mixed Grill.
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Shamancat Featured By Owner Apr 23, 2008
Yep...you are definetely a perfect example for the theorie that meat consume causes massive damage to the social and logical capabilities of the brain.

I hope your children save enough money for the retirement home..full time care is quite expensive
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Velica Featured By Owner Apr 23, 2008
My children won't live long enough to do that. I'll eat them too.

Come on veggie boy, cheer up. Or did your vitamin suplements ablated your sense of humour?
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peT-the-dead Featured By Owner Apr 18, 2008
Then I'm Islam.
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The-Mirrorball-Man Featured By Owner Apr 17, 2008  Hobbyist Digital Artist
You mean that vegans are using vegetarians as an excuse to promote an insane agenda?

Well, that does make sense, oddly enough.
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Velica Featured By Owner Apr 17, 2008
Or that vegans over-interpret the principles of vegetarianism and see non-vegetarians (or even non-vegans) as evil-doers.

Of course they are yet to kidnap and kill meat eaters like myself. :)
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The-Mirrorball-Man Featured By Owner Apr 17, 2008  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Well at least they wouldn't eat us, would they? :D
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Shamancat Featured By Owner Apr 21, 2008
Only if you offer yourself..that would be vegan...
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The-Mirrorball-Man Featured By Owner Apr 21, 2008  Hobbyist Digital Artist
True.
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Shamancat Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2008
...some people like to be eaten... you know....
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The-Mirrorball-Man Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2008  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Oh. Yes. Eaten.
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Shamancat Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2008
There had been this case in germany where a man had eaten his lover...the lover asked to be eaten, even ate a piece of himself that the man cut off of him....omnivores are sometimes a little bit strange with their love for meat.

Maybe all that toxic stuff in meat is really effecting the brain...who knows...
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Pepperjelly Featured By Owner Apr 17, 2008
You dare to mock at Vegans!
May you rot in the hell of Nonvegans and never be born again as a vegetable.

You, you ... Cheese-Eater!
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angelsuicide0 Featured By Owner Apr 25, 2008
HAHA!
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KKarasu Featured By Owner Apr 17, 2008
scary...or else......
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charliethesinner Featured By Owner Apr 17, 2008
Or else!
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GhostPockets Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2008
I really enjoy your political stuff.
All militants are horrible horrible people, whether they are propagating terror or yelling at someone for eating a cheese sandwich.
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Velica Featured By Owner Apr 17, 2008
Its the "you are guilty until you become like us" policy.

A Bushism, others may argue! :)
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GhostPockets Featured By Owner Apr 18, 2008
:)
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Rosie-the-rabbit Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2008
:lol: nice
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